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That's how cutting edge tech has always worked.

Imagine buying a shiny new PC in the 90s only to see it become practically obsolete within a year.


That's not the experience of owning a PC I remember from the 90s at all.

"Within a year" is a bit of an exaggeration but it's true that the pace of PC tech during the 90s was much, much faster than it is now. CPU power was doubling every two years, and today we're at roughly eight years. Add onto that the rise of video cards in the late 90s.

It was both. 90% of people never needed nor purchased a bleeding-edge computer. The mid-tier was "good enough" and far closer to affordable for most people; though, that bar also moved upward every year.

If you bought a mid-tier computer that was good enough for what you needed, then you probably didn't shop/compare for the next few years and didn't notice. But if you shelled out $7-10k for a top-of-the-line system and paid attention to progress, you'd easily see that become the mid-tier $1000 option within two years or less. This is how it was in the 90's PC boom, at least. Likely the same for the decades before, not sure how it went in the 2000's.


if you shelled out $7-10k for a top-of-the-line system and paid attention to progress, you'd easily see that become the mid-tier $1000 option within two years or less

This is not how I remember that period at all. Do you have any examples?


My first PC 386 was in todays money easily $5000+ (basic 2d GPU + screen)... A lot of hardware in our family was handed down to my folks, because you lost so much on selling, that it was better to keep using them as they had less demands.

386 to 486 to the first Pentium (with the bug!)... You did not upgrade in place, it was often a new system. Sure, you maybe kept your screen, keyboard etc but ... The only upgrade we had on the same MB, was a coprocessor upgrade. Remember those? Each new generation of CPU was a new motherboard. Upgrading CPUs in the same MB really became a thing only later on.

GPUs had a shelf life of barely a year. Its been 35 year but i remember TNT to TNT2 having like 9 month in between. Moving from 2D to 3D involved a constant cost as GPUs evolved fast and the latest games required latest hardware.

We have not talked about the ISA, AGP, and PCI fun ... The “bus wars”.

DOS to Windows 3.1 (and OS/2 somewhere in between) to 95 ... with software being pushing hardware, just like games did.

This is why people are spoiled with cheap PC hardware where its cheap, and easily lasts 4+ years. Even with the bad memory price and more expensive GPUs, your can stil buy a $1500 system that will last you years (with maybe some lower game settings later on ... or the catalog of 10.000s games that will easily run on a mid tier GPU).

PC hardware has become boring but extreme stable. You can run GPUs for year, switch MBs without issues while keeping large amounts of old hardware. That was NOT the 80s and 90s that i remember.


Sorry, I’m specifically talking about the claim that a cutting edge $10k system cost $1k just 24 months later (or less).

The 386 and 486 were 3.5 years apart, weren’t they?


Really depended when you bought them .. 386 is like the point where people really started to buy PCs. My 386 was more to the end period, so the jump to 486 was very short. Do not forget there was a ton of 386's and 486s released also. I remember the SX, DX, ... the coprocessor that you plugged into the socket and then the CPU into it.

The problem is that your too focused on the CPU only. There was GPU improvements (2d) then 3D, the constant improvements in sound cards. Printers ...

There was very strong depreciation in that time. I think that the poster before with his $10.000 > 1000 is somewhat exaggerating but like i said, my $5000 range system was not worth reselling. So did several other systems we acquired at the time, it simply became hand-me downs (for family who needed a PC for Lotus or WP but not a "advanced" PC).

Maybe my memory is off, but hardware in that time was way more expensive, then it is today. While todays hardware lasts WAY longer. The wife is still on a 8250u/8GB laptop, from like 8 years or so, and i can not pry it out of her hands. Needed a new battery lol ...

There really is rarely pressure to upgrade these days. That is not how i remember the 90's... Where upgrades tended to have much bigger impacts. Especially as gamers. But even on side equipment like CD players, CDRs and later DVDs.

Todays PCs is like ... raytracing, no interest. 4k? 1440p is perfectly fine. CPUs? Over powerful for most folks. The only new thing is AI and that is a totally different issue.


tbh this is how i remembered that time as well. If you look at recommended system requirements for something like Max Payne (in 2001) vs Unreal Tournament 2003, everything had basically doubled

Yeah, but the claim was that the specs for a $10k system cost $1k in 24 months or less.

In 1990 a Scottsdale 486 w/ 4MB of Ram and a 211 MB hard drive cost $6737 (plus tax).

In 1992 a Solidtech 486 w/ 4 MB of RAM and a slightly-smaller 125 MB hard drive sold for $2195

Both advertised in Computer Shopper and you can find their catalogues(?) online.

My numbers were slightly off apparently, but is that enough to change the point?


It is how I remember it.

I remember CPUs moving relatively fast back then, some years in the 90s had relatively big jumps, much bigger than we saw today. The classic graph, : https://i.extremetech.com/imagery/content-types/03zc6ghfKswe...

I remember memory size going up by a factor of 8 at every PC upgrade for the same price.

Or you could buy a PC with a Celeron CPU, which was obsolete way before launch.

When my dad bought one he told me outright "this is for poor people".

I have some fond memories from my celeron days :) But I was upgrading from AMD K5 100 MHz

I had a 600MHz/64MB/9GB laptop that came with Windows mistake edition. I managed to survive first year of uni on it by switching to Vector Linux, which was really fast compared to Windows. (Of course, it had issues playing sound from more than one source, this was oss days).

Then one day the hard drive appeared to die. I eventually realised the issue was located around the 1.5gb mark, so I recreated my Linux partitions after 2gb and it worked fine for the rest of the year.


that's what I call true creativity AI can't replace

Nah, AIs will cheat their way through anything you let them do. If skipping half the drive will let it get that sweet RL reward, it will do it.

Chat gpt came up with it: https://chatgpt.com/share/6a9ae2c9-1910-83ed-9591-1b30f8834c...

I assume it hasn't had time to read my post yet.


That’s grim that it was it first idea, but I guess if you have whole internet knowledge at it’s finger tips

I liked the suggestion to create a second partition at the start - I hadn't thought of it myself and just gave up on the first 2gb.

They overclocked well though, I think you could run the 300Mhz chips at >400Mhz.

I also believe you could get motherboards that supported 2 Celeron chips. I have no idea how effective/useful it was, but it was certainly a cheap/interesting way to get multiple CPU's.


Hardware definitely has longer lifecycle than AI model releases at this point.

You don't see Nvidia and AMD fighting every other month over the latest cards.


The 486 chip came out in 1989. The 586 came out in 1993.

The pace of change ("practically obsolete") is different then and now.


That's kind of wild. Our first PC was a an IBM PS/2 486SX 33Mhz, 4MB RAM, that was purchased in 1993.

Nearly every Namecheap site on the web is down right now, even ones that aren't hosted in Phoenix.


Yeah, the way that this case is being reported on is really irritating.

While he technically did use a special GrapheneOS feature to wipe his phone, the criminal charges would have been the same if he had used the default "reset phone" feature on Android or iOS right before handing the phone over.

The real focus of this case should be on the reason for his detainment and the confiscatation of his phone and multiple refusals to contact his lawyer.


Similarly, "Orlando" returns a bunch of results but "Orlando FL" returns none.

It would also be nice if it suggested results before you finished typing. For example, if I've typed out "orl", then Orlando should be the top suggested result.


Feature suggestion: A filter to search for castles of a specific size (e.g. over 20 acres)


The average age of Congressmen has increased, but much of that can be attributed to modern medicine and gerrymandering and the incumbent effect letting existing Congressmen stay in office for longer periods of time.

As far as the presidency goes, it's hard to draw any strong conclusions due to the small sample size and flawed two-party system. Our last two presidents have been very old, but neither was particularly popular with the voter base as a whole. Plus, Bill Clinton and Obama were very young and were elected just a decade or two prior and enjoyed a higher margin of victory and approval rating.


Synonym functionality is good as long as there's an easy way to disable it, either globally or by wrapping the term in quotes.


One of HN's quirks, for better or worse, is that the lack of ability to downvote submissions encourages "controversial" content to rise to the top.

On Reddit, if 500 people like a submission and 500 people dislike it, then it'll end up with 0 points and fail to reach /r/all

But on HN, the same content will end up at 500 points since only the people who like it can affect its rank (unless it dies after getting mass flagged).

The end result is that HN's system favors "hot takes" while Reddit's system favors "preaching to the choir".

The two systems have their pros and cons, but personally I dislike being unable to downvote articles that are full of nonsense.


People (ab)use the flagging system for that. I've seen plenty of categories of article that get upvoted onto the front page and then instantly vaporized off it by flagging.


I use a pushbullet channel for HN500. I get a notification whenever an HN submission hits 500 up votes.

It's not common, but every so often one of these submissions will be flagged by the time I get around to clicking the notification.


California has a similar issue where all beaches are legally supposed to be public, but owners of beachfront properties often have different ideas...

https://nypost.com/2024/02/29/business/california-hoa-with-f...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/02/california-w...

https://www.hcn.org/articles/public-lands-a-battle-over-beac...


Taking a chainsaw to said fence on the request of a non-emergency request line would be perfectly legal. They are obstructing public space, no different from a pothole or an abandoned vehicle.


In my experience, liberal use of CDATA is often the only way to get third-party data-importing software to work correctly.

Whether it's efficient is a far second to whether it successfully imports the data.

Looking at you, WP All Import...


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