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Should you care that your heart surgeon is a necrophiliac? Probably. Should you care that some AI researchers are in a sex cult? No.

You don't think it's relevant that people who wield such immense power are literally in bed with each other?

This. Conflict of Interest. It's also happening in government.

The problem is not the sex, the problem is the cult. The sex is merely evidence for the cult.

When the sex cult is built around the idea that they and everyone else should fear and respect the false, anthropomorphized God they've created in LLMs, then yes. That makes them stupid and stupid people should not be allowed so close to the wheels of power and history.

Can we apply this standard generally, or is it just against the people who deify AI?

"I am your GOD! Worship me! Worship meee!"

> Should you care that your heart surgeon is a necrophiliac? Probably. Should you care that some AI researchers are in a sex cult?

Umm Yes, yes you should. Immorality in one area has a tendency to bleed into other areas.


It's not even about immorality. The problem is not so much the sex, it's the cult part. If a good deal of the people working in AI safety in the biggest AI lands are actually a cult, that has deep implications about what AIs are aligned to, and how (ironically) irrational they might really be trained to be, by the very people trying to control them.

Imagine if you found out that most people working in AI safety were high level members of Scientology - wouldn't that give you some pause about where this field is going?


Nearly half of all US high school students are below average in reading.


What percentage are considered average?


“News is what someone doesn’t want you to know. The rest is just advertising.” Variously attributed to George Orwell and William Randolph Hearst.


I tip for service I’ve already received and I’ll tip in advance if I’m using the space. E.g. if I go to a coffee shop to work, I’ll buy something and leave a tip. I’ll tip if you make something for me, like a cappuccino.

I don’t tip at point of sale simply because it isn’t fair. I don’t tip at grocery checkout. Why would I tip for a drip coffee?


If you put more effort into this comment—-like explaining how “this tip thingy” is rooted in racism—-I might have left you a tip.


hm. i really want to use my ais to answer other bots like this... HN is really starting to push me


This is the kind of level-headed advice I wish I got from my older brothers.


I use a podcast manager to listen to all of my podcasts. Do you have a feature that would allow me to syndicate a feed to my podcast app?


Not yet but that's a great idea! I can work on that! I'm also about a week away from an iOS app


Nailed it.


> Though the window of opinions you can express publicly has narrowed in the last decade, it's still much wider than it was a few hundred years ago. The problem is the derivative. Up till about 1985 the window had been growing ever wider. Anyone looking into the future in 1985 would have expected freedom of expression to continue to increase. Instead it has decreased.

Let’s apply his heresy test. Is his statement true?

It might be, but I don’t know how one could confirm it. What is apparently true is that the amount of expression has greatly increased since then because internet. So that’s the denominator. The numerator of “fired for speech” would have to expand beyond the proportion of the growth of communication for this to be true.

Do you know anyone fired for their outré opinion in the last few years? Do you know _many_? I’ve read stories of it happening in business, universities, government but I don’t know anyone who has gotten the sack for expressing an opinion. Maybe that means I’m a conventional mind safely surrounded by the same.

When I hear about “cancel culture,” I picture a speaker who wants to say something and not face the social disapproval which said things triggers. But that disapproval almost always comes back at them as speech (I think infrequently as a pink slip). So those claims ring as “Free speech for me, not for thee.”


The set of things you can't publicly say without facing adverse consequences is never the empty set. Maybe your opinions happen to lie within this week's Overton window.


People don't talk about it anymore. The list of things you can't discuss is quite long and it has many items that logically shouldn't be on it.

You can say for example that the sum of genetics, culture, finances and upbringing will have different results.

Make it ever so slightly more specific and the water gets hot fast.

The retaliation for different topics is also different and has little relation with how offending the topic might be (if at all) 100 people might call your employer or you will simply be considered a lunatic.

The worse part of politics is that any real opinion will cost votes. You can't really say anything. Everything is heresy at that point.


What saddens me about this topic is the large amount of hatred coming at cyclists from drivers in the opinion page of the local newspaper (Seattle Times). Why not have some gratitude they are not contributing to traffic, not taking up parking, not polluting, etc. It comes across as pure madness.


seattle cyclists are gigantic PITAs. they pick and choose when to be cars and when to be pedestrians. and they are always bad at being both LOL


I think this is probably a bit selective, but I understand the sentiment. When I'm cycling I keep seeing awful drivers, and when I'm driving I keep seeing reckless and inconsiderate cyclists.

The awful infrastructure (poorly considered bike lanes, at best) doesn't make it easy to co-exist, either.


If they had proper infrastructure, they wouldn't have to choose between "being cars or pedestrians", they could simply be cyclists.


Usually this happens when there isn't dedicated bike infrastructure, both physical and legal and cultural. Of course they have to pick and choose.


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