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I can understand startups relying on AI tools to test out the ideas. But personal/hobby projects? Feels weird. This is not the place to go fast. Take your time, enjoy the process, learn/make things.

Never thought that people on HN would be seriously discussing an obviously vibe coded thing.


> Good engineers have become more valuable because AI lets them move much faster. They don't need as many people around them just to do the implementation work anymore.

This would be true if the goal was to get good working code faster. But the actual goal is to get any code faster. So, in reality, it doesn’t matter whether you are a good or a bad engineer. It just amplified how good you are at manipulating the hiring process with your fine tuned resume and how smoothly you can talk your way through.


I did. Only 1 replied.


The govs consist of people who have their own agendas. Mass surveillance is something they all are aligned on.


What’s up with filtering of clearly low effort AI posts here?

Every now and then I see this crap here. And people even engage into discussion. This is ridiculous.


I was gonna say that this kind of thing is a big yawn in the age of asking an LLM to do something like this. I think it would have been interesting if the author had gone a bit further and made it a useful command line tool for something. I'm impressed by demos to the extent that they show skill. I'm impressed by tools to the extent that they show an understanding of the process. I'm not sure whether this accomplishes either.


https://github.com/apresmoi/glyphcss

I wouldn't call it low effort ... seems to be done over the course of months.

I agree it's absurd that those 4 commits started this morning projects that get huge hype and screaming fanboys, but I don't think this is that.


> I agree it's absurd that those 4 commits started this morning projects that get huge hype and screaming fanboys, but I don't think this is that.

Is that what I'm doing wrong?

If I start a new project this morning, push about four commits to it, and bang it up on here, it'll go to the front page? I'd love for anything I've done to get that much traction ;-)


The only consistent things I've heard is volume. You gotta effectively spam and some things stick.

It also has to be cognitively stupid to understand - the least amount of knowledge or suppositions required.

I've found myself on the front page maybe 5 times... Someone else posted my stuff.

I find the algo game to be morally repugnant so I don't play it. I just build things and hope they're useful to the right audiences


It pairs well with a 3d splatting story in the front page https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48618481 despite the slop


> They’re going to land an in person interview

Not necessarily. It can be either an AI interview or a record that will be analysed by AI later. So there’s a chance to cheat here as well.


My first thought. The title is so typical for this kind of projects.


> Even if LLMs make mistakes, the ability of LLMs to deliver useful code and hints improved to the point most skeptics started to use LLMs anyway

Here we go again. Statements with the single source in the head of the speaker. And it’s also not true. The llms still produce bad/irrelevant code at such rate that you can spend more time prompting than doing things yourself.

I’m tired of this overestimation of llms.


My person experience: if I can find a solution on stackoverflow etc. the LLM will produce working and fundamentally correct code. If I can‘t find a already fullfilled solution on these sites, the LLM is hallucinating like crazy (newer existing functions/modules/plugins, protocol features which aren’t specified and even github-repos which never existed). So, as stated my many people online before: for low-hanging fruits LLM are totally viable solution.


I don't remember the last time Claude Code hallucinated some library, as it will check the packages, verify with the linter, run a test import and so on.

Are you talking about punching something into some LLM web chat that's disconnected from your actual codebase and has tooling like web search disabled? If so, that's not really the state of the art of AI assisted coding, just so you know.


6 months.


Even where they are not directly using LLMs to write the most critical or core code, nearly every skeptic I know has started using LLMs at very least to do things like write tests, build tools, write glue code, help to debug or refactor, etc.

Your statement suffers not only from also coming only from your brain, with no evidence that you've actually tried to learn to use these tools, but it also goes against the weight of evidence that I see both in my professional network and online.


I just want people making statements like the author to be more specific how exactly the llms are being used. Otherwise they contribute to this belief that llms are a magical tool that can do anything.

I am aware of simple routine tasks that LLMs can do. This doesn’t change anything about what I said.


All you had to do is scroll down further and read the next couple of posts where the author is being more specific on how they used LLMs.

I swear, the so called critics need everything spoon fed.


Sorry, but we're way past that. It's you who need to provide examples of tasks it can't do.


You need to meet more skeptics. (Or maybe I do.) In my world, it's much more rare than you say.


But you have just repeated what you are complaining about.


Do you want me to spend time to come with a quality response to a lazy statement? It’s like fighting with windmills. I’m fine with having my say the way I did.


> Here we go again.

Indeed, he said the same as a reflection on 2024 models:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42561151

It is always the fault of the "luser" who is not using and paying for the latest model.


> Here we go again. Statements with the single source in the head of the speaker. And it’s also not true.

You're making the same sort of baseless claim you are criticising the blogger for making. Spewing baseless claims hardly moves any discussion forward.

> The llms still produce bad/irrelevant code at such rate that you can spend more time promoting than doing things yourself.

If that is your personal experience then I regret to tell you that it is only the reflection of your own inability to work with LLMs and coding agents. Meanwhile, I personally manage to effectively use LLMs anywhere between small refactoring needs and large software architecture designs, including generating fully working MVPs in one-shot agent prompts. From this alone it's rather obvious who is making baseless statements that are more aligned with reality.


This whole thing worldwide will lead to division in the society and to people having secret social media accounts. Only the most lazy and stupid ones will be handing over their private data to any gov security forces.


With so much browser fingerprinting and the biggest social networks being US companies, I wouldn't be surprised if already a company like Palanti has a dataset with all your history


They don't need fingerprinting, all the American social media has probably already been given a sealed FISA order to hand over account lists with ip access logs.

I feel like it's the same as the "I am not a terrorist" declaration check-box. You know your socials, they know your socials. They want to see if you lie.


What do you mean, secret? Your every action online is stored in massive data centres either operated by the US government or American mega corporations.

I can’t believe people STILL believe there is anonymity left online!

Unless you take some “enemy of the state”(great movie btw) level actions, they know everything worth knowing about you.


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