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Yeah but I presume this has more to do with latency than overall compute, right?


Yes latency, and the usual preference of ownership over rentership. Similarly their are benefits to running local AI too, like data privacy and control.


Emmm...dash?


This is a hard truth


Ah yes, I've had similar experiences actually. Also the variant where I ask it to provide an alternate solution/answer to the one it gave, where it than proceeds to basically regurgitate its previous answer with slight stylistic (i.e. maintaining content parity) modifications.


I think you'd want things in RAM for performance reasons but would love to be corrected by people with more knowledge/experience on the subject


Oh the number was memory space? That changes the maths a little bit. But I do have 50gb available for a model no problem whatsoever. 384gb is the new 32gb.


They are very expensive


Yeah like that time before your were born, remember?


Just use Proton


Proton says they care about security and privacy but at the same time makes it impossible to use your own keys or properly export the original emails from your inbox. I really can't take this suggestion seriously.


I haven't tried myself but is this insufficiently proper? https://proton.me/support/proton-mail-export-tool


Last I checked that tool reordered all the headers (which destroys a lot of forensic value amongst other issues) and neither should such a tool be the only way to get (supposedly) good exports.

Both the IMAP bridge and web interface should provide original unmodified emails upon request.


That's not a good argument. The easiest way to undermine security of everyone is to allow portability of keys features. Look for example at where Signal fails and for no benefit to a normal user.


Current email encryption schemes provide no forward security, it's nothing like Signal. Key management has to work totally different.

You're also wrong in the aspect that it would undermine something, you can absolutely export keys from Protonmail, you just can't use your own keys properly. You can't remove all the keys they have generated, you can't use your own client with your own keys, the bridge literally mucks it up. The defaults can be what they are, it's not mutually exclusive in any way.

In the end this restriction undermines the security and privacy for everyone that want to use secure hardware storage. Which is absolutely insane for a service that boasts about these things.


I didn't critique their security model, I said you wanting greater convenience to exfiltrate keys and documents, even if its to a system that is more secure for you, is not arguing for better security and privacy in their product.


Your comment makes no sense. You can already export all the keys Protonmail generates (which I don't want to use and neither should I be forced to use). Not allowing the user to use their own provides absolutely no resistance to any kind of exfiltration.


>> Proton says they care about security and privacy but at the same time makes it impossible to use your own keys or properly export the original emails from your inbox. I really can't take this suggestion seriously.

They shamefully don't care about security and privacy because you can't get anti privacy capabilities working to your satisfaction.

You apparently could have lead with a lot of valid complaints but your 'shame' isn't really consistent with what you actually want.


Also surprised by this. Will the eu follow suit?


There has been talk of it in the UK of limiting them to 3 months when time allows: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/645e27612c06a...


Which language do you refer to when you speak of python's typed sibling?


I take jmduke to mean Python with type annotations.


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