I am not sure if I understood your comment correctly, in case not, feel free to correct.
A torque in an electric car is imo “a marketing ploy” only until a person thinking that actually tries one of those cars. I can assure you that even the cheapest model 3 has acceleration and torque that feels insane compared to any gas car I have ever tried (including stuff like a new Mustang GT with a V8).
You dont need to be into cars at all to feel the massive difference, it isn’t like an audiophile thing where you have to be into it to be able to tell the small differences. The best comparison i can give you is that if you press the pedal all the way, your head jerks back and your stomach gets that exact same physical feeling you would get on a dropping rollercoaster.
Sidenote: same thing with electric motorcycles btw. Even gas motorcycles already have really fast acceleration comparable to some electric cars, but an electric motorcycle is something else. Test drove a Zero recently, and the difference between it and a gas bike felt just as massive as going from a gas car to an electric car. Almost like a personal low-speed teleportation device.
That's probably just an illusion with respect to electric motorcycles. All high-performance motorcycles have way more than enough torque to overwhelm the traction of their one little tire. They are _all_ "artificially slower" because the launch controls are trying to keep the rubber on the road. You'll note that the fastest production electric motorcycle is near the bottom of this list:
Have you ridden aggressively tuned bikes like MV Agusta's Brutale?
I ask because I used to own a Brutale (I recently switched to an S1000R), and I noticed a guy on a Zero at a traffic light one day on my commute; he was fast enough off the line, but his shoulders got no more than 50cm or so ahead of me before he was behind me - I never saw the back of his bike.
My Brutale 920 had ~40hp less than my S1000R, but it felt faster in some ways because it had more jerk - the acceleration kicked in sooner. I kept doing accidental wheelies off the line the first week I owned it.
The S1000R is faster overall, but due to its smoothness, ride by wire throttle etc. it needs to be treated harshly with bigger throttle inputs to get the same feeling of responsiveness. I write this because it's not just a gas bike's power, but design choices that affect how fast it feels.
>Have you ridden aggressively tuned bikes like MV Agusta's Brutale?
No, I should've specified that the bikes I usually ride are all around 600cc and below. I am totally aware that the discrepancy between top tier ICE motorcycles and electric ones isn't as massive as between top tier ICE cars and electric ones.
I have a CB600F Hornet too, for commuting in less pleasant weather, and smaller engines need handfuls of clutch slip and screaming in lower gears to be responsive. Which of course I apply since I'm used to more shove.
And thus I'm thinking about trading it in for something with more torque, as the screaming is less interesting to me and exposes more vibrations especially in older bikes. Could go either way with that (big engine or electric); though I have an inkling it might be worthwhile seeing what plug in scooters are available. Or if the cycle lane assault on road space continues in London, the fastest electric bike I can find.
Most high-spec IC motorcycles are already twitchy enough to turn most people into organ donors. I can't imagine riding one with the instant torque of a motor, that's just insane
Right, I've experienced being a passenger in a Tesla. It's impressive but completely unnecessary to go get some groceries.
Doing jackrabbit starts and stops on normal roads is going to have an impact to your mileage, just as if it was a regular ICE vehicle. Limiting the motor will lead to better mileage/range which then leads to a better customer impression when evaluating cars for purchase.
Casually dropping "It's so awesomely powerful, we had to put in restrictions for comfort" is straight up marketing speak to cover the tradeoff of 0-60 and battery range.
A torque in an electric car is imo “a marketing ploy” only until a person thinking that actually tries one of those cars. I can assure you that even the cheapest model 3 has acceleration and torque that feels insane compared to any gas car I have ever tried (including stuff like a new Mustang GT with a V8).
You dont need to be into cars at all to feel the massive difference, it isn’t like an audiophile thing where you have to be into it to be able to tell the small differences. The best comparison i can give you is that if you press the pedal all the way, your head jerks back and your stomach gets that exact same physical feeling you would get on a dropping rollercoaster.
Sidenote: same thing with electric motorcycles btw. Even gas motorcycles already have really fast acceleration comparable to some electric cars, but an electric motorcycle is something else. Test drove a Zero recently, and the difference between it and a gas bike felt just as massive as going from a gas car to an electric car. Almost like a personal low-speed teleportation device.